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yeah it was. I know people hate on Manson (and that's fine) but Animals is one the best albums of the 90's.
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That was the only MM album that I liked. Very solid.
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I can't really hate on him per say, just that his schtick has lost its appeal.

If he'd continued to go off into other genres like he did with that glam production, I'd have stuck with him.
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I can't really hate on him per say, just that his schtick has lost its appeal.

If he'd continued to go off into other genres like he did with that glam production, I'd have stuck with him.
I gave up after Holy Wood. That's the last album I actually bought and still listen to. Nothing beats the three punch of American Family, Antichrist, and Mechanical IMO.
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R.E.M. fan myself.
Their first two albums are great, and they have some good songs here and there throughout their career (AFTP was pretty good), but they pretty much lost my fandom with SHINY HAPPY PEOPLE, the single worst song ever written...much worse than WE BUILT THIS CITY.
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If I ever forget you, Jefferson Starship...
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Hate R.E.M.

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If I ever forget you, Jefferson Starship...
JANE is a killer song. Apart from that, yeah...
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ROB: You are wrong, old REM (like, prior to Out of Time) is awesome, and a lot of the stuff after is great also. RE: Soundgarden - I like most of their stuff, but I can see where Chris might not click with you. Ironically, Rusty Cage is one of my least favorite of their offerings (along with the also very popular Jesus Christ Pose)
EVERYONE HATING ON NIRVANA: You're very wrong, listen again to songs like On a Plain or Drain you for evidence.
RE: MM - my dad loved Beautiful People so much he asked for Antichrist Superstar for Christmas. I obliged.
RE: Hating on the ravens - us ravens fans are used to it, but at least we're not as bitchy and victim complexy as steelers fans.
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R.E.M. fan myself.
Ahhh... One of my people.

(Not that I don't love Nirvana too, it's just that I'm a bigger R.E.M. fan, so...there's that.)
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Ahhh... One of my people.

(Not that I don't love Nirvana too, it's just that I'm a bigger R.E.M. fan, so...there's that.)
So was Kurt Cobain, actually.
I always think people who like one band and not the other are interesting, since their sound had so much in common. I mean, take old REM, mix in the pixies and a little Zeppelin, and turn it up, and you've got Nirvana.
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I can appreciate almost all the music being discussed here because I'm not a music snob NOW HOW BOUT SOME DUBSTEPZ
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Rob has an unbelievable amount of hate for bands who have produced great music.

It's just one of his quirks.
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So was Kurt Cobain, actually.
Yeah, I heard that. Know what I loved? When Eddie Vedder inducted R.E.M. into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame - I thought the speech he gave was great. It was a much more thoughtful, mature Vedder, which I really loved. But the moment that really sat with me was when he mentioned friends who'd passed on. And he said something to the effect of how he was the first choice to make the speech, but that, "I'd give just about anything to have been the second choice if Kurt was still around to be first choice." I thought that was really nice.
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Rob has an unbelievable amount of hate for bands who have produced great music.

It's just one of his quirks.
I have hate for bands that I don't personally like. In REM's case I can't name one single song I like. Just not for me.
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Kurt and Michael were actually pretty close for a while. I remember there even being rumors about some hanky panky. Who knows. Would have been a million percent better than Courtney Love.
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Metal isn't dead and Nirvana didn't kill it. However, they did alter the pop music scene for the better at a key moment in history. It's not Cobain's fault that American metal never got back to the same place.

If we're going to call loud thrash and glam metal the pinnacles of a musical movement, then your argument is fucked before it even began.
THIS. No one was happier than I when glam metal and all those fucking power ballads died screaming when Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, etc. broke.

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I love the Glam metal bands that actually had talent and musical skill. Most of that scene was all about 'the look' instead of the music, and there were far too many shitty bands with big poofy hair at the end...it deserved to die. It doesn't deserve the level of scorn that it receives, though.
Oh, if you only lived in NJ/NYC back in the day, my friend. My hatred for glam/hair metal was all consuming and it was EVERYWHERE. Shitty bands with shitty make-up and hair at shitty dives playing shitty music.

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There was a show on public access around here starring a hair metal fan called Liquor Lipps. To his credit, he played a lot of obscure bands and even obscurer songs and videos, but he just couldn't let go of the fact that the fanbases moved on. I think after Kevin DuBrow passed away, he finally hung it up.
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